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David Meyer, Alan Murray

Why Bank of America CEO Brian Moynihan is not so stressed about recession

Bank of America CEO Brian Thomas Moynihan (Credit: Drew Angerer—Getty Images)

Good morning.

The Fortune CEO Initiative kicked off in Palm Beach, Florida, yesterday, with a town hall meeting headlined by Bank of America CEO Brian Moynihan. Moynihan began with his analysis of the economy, which was considerably less dire than other prognosticators:

“Our research team predicts that there will be a recession starting in the first, second, third quarter of next year…They keep pushing it out. And that’s because if you look at the customer data through Oct. 24, customers have spent 8.5% more than they spent last year for those three weeks. The customers have money. Their accounts are up 15% year over year. Unemployment is low. And there is still great competition for talent… That’s the conundrum. We are in pretty good shape. Recession predicted. Those things will collide.”

Moynihan has spent an enormous amount of his own time in the last few years working with the World Economic Forum and the Sustainable Markets Initiative to devise metrics for measuring ESG performance and to encourage financing for climate related investments. I asked him why his shareholders should support that activity:

“We believe in what Jim Collins called the genius of the and, not the tyranny of the or. At the end of the day, we are delivering record profits and record purpose in our company.”

I asked whether any of his customers were backing off their environmental or social commitments, either because of an impending recession or because of political pushback against ESG.

“We don’t see it at all. As CEOs of public companies, you make these commitments, you are out there…I don’t see them backing off, because they made a commitment on the fundamental basis of what they believe about the future of the capital system.”

Moynihan said Bank of America’s research also showed:

“There is an extreme correlation that you can avoid companies that would go bankrupt if you don’t invest in companies that score poorly” on ESG.

Other excerpts from the town hall discussion:

“New employees want to talk to us about our annual report about partnering for positive impact before they talk to us about anything else.”
—Penny Pennington, managing partner, Edward Jones

“Companies should be measured on more than just profits as a measure of success. Clearly our customers share that mindset. And when you think about talent, there is research out there that says workers will not work for employees that do not share their values. And that goes for as much as 56% of them. Employees today want to be attached to a purpose.”
—Chano Fernandez, co-CEO, Workday

“Profit and purpose, purpose and profit, these are not new ideas…The principles of those companies that have survived over time have been rooted in authenticity and what is relevant to your stakeholders, and being judicious about what you do, and not try to be all things to all people.”
Tamara Lundgren, CEO, Schnitzer Steel

More from day two of the initiative here tomorrow. Other news below.


Alan Murray
@alansmurray

alan.murray@fortune.com

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