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Alan Murray, Nicholas Gordon

'We don't do woke, we just work:' 3 CEOs talk ESG, A.I., and geopolitics

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Good morning.

Fortune assembled two dozen CEOs of diverse companies over dinner in San Francisco on Tuesday evening to talk about the opportunities and challenges they face in the year ahead. The topics ranged widely, touching on the economy, A.I., the return to office, climate, ESG, geopolitics and domestic politics. Most of the conversation was off the record, but three CEOs—Laura Alber of Williams-Sonoma, Tom Siebel of C3.ai, and Carl Eschenbach, co-CEO of Workday—provided fire starter comments that I can excerpt here.

On the economy:

For the last 14 months we have been sitting around saying the recession is going to come. Fourteen months later, we keep saying the same thing, over and over again. Companies are still doing well…There are a lot of layoffs, but if you look where they are coming from, it is very high-tech centric. Not everyone is doing layoffs. People are still hiring.”

—Eschenbach

“This is not last year, but it’s still really good. The opportunities are great for companies who are innovators and companies who have a competitive moat and who are staying relevant…We will gain market share in a receding home furnishings environment.”

—Alber

On A.I.:

“This topic is clearly on the tip of the tongue of every chairman and every CEO of every major company in the world. How is this going to threaten us? How are we going to use it? What happens if we don’t use it? How does it give us competitive advantage? We are in the first half of the first inning and we are the first guys at bat. This is a big deal.”

—Siebel

This is real. It is happening. This is the next big tectonic shift.”

—Eschenbach

On geopolitical challenges:

“We have been diversifying our supply chain for years. When the tariffs (against Chinese products) happened, we moved a lot at that point. We brought a bunch back to America. And we are continuing to diversify.”

—Alber

It’s scary out there.”

Siebel

On the political pushback against ESG:

We think about all three letters, and how they affect our people and how they affect our customers. Some of our shareholders are very interested in ESG. But I don’t think we are going to over-rotate one way or the other.”

Eschenbach

We’ve been doing good things, trying to leave a better footprint, since before it was fashionable. It’s the right way to do business. It is very ingrained in what we do. We haven’t changed our approach to it.”

—Alber

“At C3, we don’t do woke, we just work. We are involved in some of the largest energy optimization projects on earth, with companies like Enel, Shell, NG, ConEd, Duke. These guys are really not doing it for social good. They are doing it to make money.”

—Siebel

The dinner was part of the lead up to the Fortune Global Forum in Abu Dhabi November 27-29. If you are interested in attending, apply here.

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Alan Murray
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alan.murray@fortune.com

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