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Armen GEORGIAN

'The nationalisation of states is killing the European idea': EU book prize winner Menasse

TALKING EUROPE © FRANCE 24

Talking Europe hosts Austrian author Robert Menasse, the winner of the 2023 European Union book prize. The award was set up in 2007 to foster a European spirit and promote understanding of the EU from a cultural perspective. The prize has previously been bestowed on such towering figures as Jonathan Coe, Philippe Sands and Tony Judt. Menasse is the only writer to have won the award twice. We discuss his prize-winning novel "The Enlargement", which takes places against the backdrop of the actual enlargement of the European Union. It forms the second novel in his trilogy, after "The Capital" in 2019.

Asked why he is drawn to the European Union as the subject matter for his books, Menasse says: "I am a novelist. What is a novel? What should a novel be able to tell? Contemporaneity. For us Europeans, the European Union is producing the basics and the context of all our lives; of our search for luck and wealth. It's European law which interferes in our lives, which defines our lives. So if I try to tell how we are living today, what our problems are, how we try to resolve them, and why we are not able to resolve them, that has all the time to do with the context of European law and the reality of the European Union."

And why was Menasse particularly interested in the Balkans, in this latest novel? "I was travelling in the Balkan states, North Macedonia, Albania, Montenegro and so on, because I wanted to find the most interesting possible example out of all these countries which want to come into the European Union. And I suddenly realised: it's Albania. Albania is a very interesting country – completely different to the others and, at the same time, typical. They already implement European law and are not a member of the European Union. And members of the European Union like Poland are breaking European law. This contradiction was very interesting for me."

The author contends that the founding idea of the EU is being lost. "Europe does have a narrative. But the narrative has been forgotten," he asserts. "It's a fascinating narrative. The founding generation of the European project experienced in their life four nationalistic, brutal wars, because of aggressor nationalism. The idea was to take the different nations and combine them in a way so that none can do harm to another without damaging itself. The first post-national continent is the narrative. But the politicians today do not know it or forgot it. Or they find it easier to collect national votes."

Continuing on that theme, Menasse takes a critical view of some of the developments in his native Austria, which until recently was blocking the entry of Romania and Bulgaria into the Schengen free travel area (although Austria has now agreed to a limited rollback of its veto). "The veto against Bulgarian membership of Schengen, for example, is only given because the Austrian government expects that national voters want it. It has nothing to do with European needs. The nationalisation of the European member states is killing the European idea, and it is very interesting that the countries outside the EU and which want to come in, they know much more about European ideals and values. It's very crazy. The better European Union is the union of the countries which are not members of the European Union."

"There is a contradiction between post-national development and the renationalisation of the member states," Menasse goes on. "This basic contradiction cannot be resolved. There is no solution."

Programme produced by Sophie Samaille, Perrine Desplats, Isabelle Romero and Juliette Laurain

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