That’s all for tonight. Thanks for your company and emails – bye!
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Before we go, let’s hear from Pep
We played an incredible game in the first half. They were more aggressive in the second half and they scored a goal. I’m very pleased with the performance. Congratulations to Newcastle.
Imagine how good it would be if you could press the red button and hear Pep’s internal monologue as he does one of these interviews.
The full fourth-round draw
Mansfield v Port Vale
Ipswich Town v Fulham
Man Utd v Newcastle Utd
Bournemouth v Liverpool
Chelsea v Blackburn Rovers
West Ham v Arsenal
Everton v Burnley
Exeter v Middlesbrough
Ties will be played on 31 October and 1 November
Some decent ties there. There’s a repeat of last year’s final plus Sean Dyche v Burnley, West Ham v Arsenal and a guarantee of at least two lower-division sides in the last eight.
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Everton v Burnley
Exeter v Middlesbrough
Chelsea v Blackburn Rovers
West Ham v Arsenal
Man Utd v Newcastle Utd
Bournemouth v Liverpool
Mansfield v Port Vale
Ipswich Town v Fulham
It’s time for the fourth-round draw, so let’s have some.
These are the teams in the fourth-round draw
Arsenal
Blackburn Rovers
AFC Bournemouth
Burnley
Chelsea
Everton
Exeter City
Fulham
Ipswich Town
Liverpool
Manchester United
Mansfield Town
Middlesbrough
Newcastle United
Port Vale
West Ham United
The matchwinner and the player of the match talk to Sky Sports
Alexander Isak and Tino Livramento react to beating Manchester City in the Carabao Cup third round 💭 pic.twitter.com/YYs23fqA4N
— Sky Sports Football (@SkyFootball) September 27, 2023
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Pep Guardiola has just given the ref Chris Kavanagh a bit of a mouthful. Now he’s congratulating a few of the Newcastle players with an animated body language that doesn’t exactly rule out the possibility of sarcasm.
It’s fair to say City haven’t taken this well, but I suppose you can understand that when they lose so infrequently.
Pep Guardiola is NOT happy...😤 pic.twitter.com/TprSE7bTTL
— Sky Sports Football (@SkyFootball) September 27, 2023
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All the full-time scores
Aston Villa 1-2 Everton
Blackburn Rovers 5-2 Cardiff City
AFC Bournemouth 2-0 Stoke City
Brentford 0-1 Arsenal
Chelsea 1-0 Brighton & Hove Albion
Fulham 2-1 Norwich City
Lincoln City 0-1 West Ham United
Liverpool 3-1 Leicester City
Newcastle 1-0 Manchester City
We’ll have the draw for the last 16 in around 20 minutes.
Full time: Newcastle 1-0 Man City
Peep peep! Newcastle are into the last 16 after a stirring win over Manchester City. In the first half they were outpassed to an almost embarrassing degree, but their defence held firm and the half-time introduction of Bruno Guimaraes and Anthony Gordon – along with oodles of added aggression – changed the game. Alexander Isak scored early in the second half, and an increasingly frustrated City rarely looked like equalising.
90+4 min: Newcastle substitution Paul Dummett, who had a fine game and walks off smiling proudly, is replaced by Fabian Schar.
90+3 min Foden goes over just outside the area after a shoulder barge from Targett. The referee decides, rightly I think, that there wasn’t enough for a free-kick.
90+2 min Joelinton’s snapshot from distance is well held to his right by Ortega.
90 min: Newcastle substitution Elliot Anderson replaces Sandro Tonali. There will be six minutes of added time.
89 min: Just wide from Lewis! Doku has made a few things happen since coming on, and City are giving him the ball at every opportunity. He zips infield and plays a sharp square pass to Lewis on the edge of the D. Lewis takes a couple of quick touches and drives a low shot just wide of the left-hand post. I don’t think Pope would have saved it.
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88 min Gordon collects a loose ball 25 yards from goal, charges into the area and whacks a shot from a very tight angle that is blocked by Ortega.
86 min Doku’s imaginative through pass is slightly too heavy for Foden, who made a nice run from out to in. Might as well use this phrase while we can: City don’t look like scoring.
The full-time scores in the 7.45pm games
Not a penalty competition in sight. What a fine, cathartic win that is for Everton, who were humiliated at Villa Park in the league.
Aston Villa 1-2 Everton
Blackburn Rovers 5-2 Cardiff City
AFC Bournemouth 2-0 Stoke City
Brentford 0-1 Arsenal
Chelsea 1-0 Brighton & Hove Albion
Fulham 2-1 Norwich City
Lincoln City 0-1 West Ham United
Liverpool 3-1 Leicester City
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83 min Now Joelinton is booked for flattening Foden. It’s been a niggly second half.
82 min Tonali kicks the ball away and is booked. Moments later, Livramento gets round to make a brilliant and probably goal-saving challenge on Matheus Nunes. Akanji’s long pass cleared Lascelles and was controlled on the run by Nunes. He was about to shoot when Livramento appeared on his blind side.
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81 min At no stage in the second half have City built the attacking momentum they had throughout the first. And at no stage has Pep Guardiola looked like bringing on Erling Haaland.
80 min “Prog rock is all well and good, but progressive metal is where it’s at,” deadpans Matt Dony. “ The first gig I took (dragged) my partner to was Between The Buried And Me. One of the most interesting, creative, and technically proficient bands around. Admittedly, though, fairly niche. She said she enjoyed. Her eyes said otherwise. Anyway. Is there anything to dislike about Isak? (Apart from a debut goal against Liverpool, obviously.) Great player, great technique, quick, works hard, seems like a good bloke. Annoyingly likeable.”
78 min Gomez goes down off the ball after Guimaraes slips into him. Newcastle keep playing and Livramento wins a corner, at which point Pep Guardiola starts mouthing off and gets a yellow card. Maybe Newcastle should have stopped playing but I certainly don’t think Guimaraes deliberately fouled/felled Gomrz.
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77 min A very imaginative pass from Guimaraes just evades Murphy at the far post. Newcastle have been excellent in the second half.
75 min Grealish cuts inside from the left and has a pop from 25 yards. It’s straight at Pope.
75 min In the second half City have had no shots on target and two touches in the Newcastle box.
73 min: City substitution Phil Foden replaces Julian Alvarez.
Brentford 0-1 Arsenal “This game is degenerating into the sort of loose, wild set-toyou see outside the Red Lion when two geezers start swinging at each other,” says Charles Antaki. “Not much contact and little end result, but exciting all the same.”
71 min Grealish is a bit lucky to avoid a yellow card for a petulant foul on Livramento. By their standards – and these things are relative – City have lost the head.
The latest scores elsewhere (there are around five minutes plus added time remaining)
Aston Villa 1-2 Everton
Blackburn Rovers 5-2 Cardiff City
AFC Bournemouth 2-0 Stoke City
Brentford 0-1 Arsenal
Chelsea 1-0 Brighton & Hove Albion
Fulham 2-1 Norwich City
Lincoln City 0-1 West Ham United
Liverpool 2-1 Leicester City
69 min Bruno fouls Nunes and is booked. The game has become very bitty, which suits Newcastle.
69 min “Good to see we’re taking The Rumbelows Cup seriously,” says Chris Paraskevas. “How many times do you think someone can use the 7 Day Free Trial thing before it becomes suspect? Asking for a friend.”
68 min: Double substitution for City But still no sign of Erling Haaland. Jeremy Doku and Matheus Nunes replace Nathan Ake and Mateo Kovacic. That presumably means Sergio Gomez will go to left-back.
68 min Newcastle work a nice short corner on the right, only for Murphy to overhit his flipped cross.
66 min And now Phillips is booked for a foul on Murphy. City are slightly rattled.
65 min Akanji is booked for dissent.
65 min A very good free-kick from Alvarez is almost met by Akanji at the near post. A Newcastle defender - I couldn’t tell who it was – forces it behind for a corner.
63 min Murphy has moved to the left, with Anthony Gordon playing up front.
62 min: Newcastle substitution Miguel Almiron replaces the goalscorer Alexander Isak. He’s limping slightly and there are suggestions it’s a calm problem.
61 min There’s a break in play, with a couple of Newcastle players needing treatment: Bruno Guimares and Alexander Isak.
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59 min Still no response from City, either with the ball or from the bench. It’s been a game of two distinct segments.
More goals in the other games. Dominic Szoboszlai has put Liverpool ahead.
Aston Villa 0-2 Everton
Blackburn Rovers 5-2 Cardiff City
AFC Bournemouth 2-0 Stoke City
Brentford 0-1 Arsenal
Chelsea 1-0 Brighton & Hove Albion
Fulham 2-0 Norwich City
Lincoln City 0-1 West Ham United
Liverpool 2-1 Leicester City
56 min The throw-in is stolen by Newcastle, and seconds later Isak’s shot is deflected behind by Gvardiol. City have been caught on the hop by Newcastle’s aggression.
55 min Lord knows what Newcastle were fed at half-time. Isak concedes a throw-in, 80 yards from his own goal, and roars at the Newcastle fans.
Newcastle are rewarded for a ferocious start to the second half. Murphy started the move, receiving a pass beautifully on the half turn and fizzing it into Joelinton on the edge of the D. He ran back outside the City defence and reversed a low cross that was put in with glee by Isak at the far post.
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GOAL! Newcastle 1-0 Man Cit (Isak 53)
It’s definitely a contest.
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50 min Gordon runs right across to field to make a tackle on Kovacic, more fuel for the home fans. It feels like a contest now.
49 min The crowd have responded to Newcastle’s aggressive start to the second half. I’d like to see that half chance for Tonali again – the angle may it hard to tell whether he miskicked Livramento’s cutback, whether his shot was blocked or whether a defender got to it first.
48 min Newcastle have started the second half with greater intent. Tonali surges through midfield and finds Isak to his right. He plays in the underlapping Livramento, whose sharp cut-back doesn’t quite fall for Tonali.
47 min Kalvin Phillips shoots over from 25 yards.
47 min “Richard Hirst is now my favourite MBM emailer,” says Joe Pearson. “When I was younger, I envied people in the UK who could actually go see the bands I loved. I only ever got to see the handful that eventually made their way to the US. ‘The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway’ remains one of my favourite concerts of all time, almost fifty years on. But I digress, Liverpool have equalised!”
46 min Peep peep! Newcastle begin the second half.
A double change for Newcastle Anthony Gordon and Bruno Guimaraes replace Lewis Hall and Lewis Miley. That means Joelinton will move into midfield.
Goals galore at the start of the second half, including Cody Gakpo for Liverpool, Nicolas Jackson for Chelsea and Brighton’s Andrew Moran for Blackburn. These are the latest scores.
Aston Villa 0-2 Everton
Blackburn Rovers 4-2 Cardiff City
AFC Bournemouth 2-0 Stoke City
Brentford 0-1 Arsenal
Chelsea 1-0 Brighton & Hove Albion
Fulham 1-0 Norwich City
Lincoln City 0-0 West Ham United
Liverpool 1-1 Leicester City
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“Coincidentally, because my partner is away, I was able to listen to Yessongs yesterday,” says Richard Hirst. “Lyrically suspect, but I still claim that musically it is very good. (May be an unreliable witness, however, since the first concert I ever attended was a free concert in Parliament Hill Fields with, amongst others, Yes, Soft Machine and Procul Harum. I was clearly scarred for life.)”
I knew I’d regret bringing up prog rock. (I jest, I just know very little about it, unless you count Mansun.)
Half time: Newcastle 0-0 Man City
Gomez’s lofted pass infield is just too heavy for Lewis, allowing Pope to come out and claim. I suppose that sums up a first half in which City were totally dominant yet created little. The best chance fell to Newcastle’s Jacob Murphy, who was denied by a good save from Stefan Ortega.
Both teams have some big hitters on the bench, and I supsect they’ll use some of them at half-time.
45+1 min Just one added minute, mainly because City have hardly allowed the ball to go out of play so there’s been no scope for timewasting.
45 min Livramento has his first surge down the right, but his cross is overhit. Newcastle are starting to have a bit more of the ball.
44 min The elusive Bobb wins a corner on the right for City, which leads to another on the far side. Grealish delivers, Pope punches clear.
41 min: Good save from Ortega! Newcastle almost score with their first anything. City lost the ball in the centre-circle when Gvardiol’s pass to Kovacic was intercepted by Joelinton, and Isak put Murphy through on goal with an early angled pass. He ran into the area and drove a low shot across goal that Ortega – who was falling the other way – saved with his outstretched right leg. Very good save.
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40 min “I understand your point about prog rock, at least as much as it has been stereotyped over the intervening decades,” says Joe Pearson, “but it wasn’t all bloated, pointless, and meandering. Now, if you wanted to specifically refer to Tales from Topographic Oceans by Yes, then I’m with you all the way.”
While I’ll happily bow to your superior knowledge, there weren’t many three-minute prog songs, were there? Or were there?
39 min Lewis’s long-range curler takes a deflection and spins behind for a corner. Nothing comes of it.
38 min Possession is now 29-71. Newcastle have an xG of 0.00 (although City’s is only 0.29).
37 min Kalvin Phillips is limping. He seemed to slip while trying to get away from Joelinton off the ball. Hopefully he can run it off.
The half-time scores in the other games
I knew we should have done Blackburn/Cardiff rather than this game.
Aston Villa 0-1 Everton
Blackburn Rovers 2-2 Cardiff City
AFC Bournemouth 0-0 Stoke City
Brentford 0-1 Arsenal
Chelsea 0-0 Brighton & Hove Albion
Fulham 1-0 Norwich City
Lincoln City 0-0 West Ham United
Liverpool 0-1 Leicester City
33 min A frazzled backpass from Hall goes behind for a City corner. Gomez’s deep inswinger is met by Gvardiol, whose header hits the back of Dummett’s head and flies just wide. Dummett knew the square root of bugger all about it, but he may have saved a goal.
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30 min While City continue to utterly dominate Newcastle, here’s an XI of players who aren’t on the pitch right now.
Ederson; Walker, Dias, Stones, Bernardo; Rodri; De Bruyne, Nunes; Foden, Haaland, Doku.
29 min Beautiful play from City. Grealish and Kovacic (who has been really good) combine to find Bobb 20 yards from goal. He guides a first-time pass through to Alvarez, who takes a touch and wallops a cross-shot that flashes across the six-yard box. The angle was pretty tight.
27 min Grealish lays the ball back to Kovacic, whose stinger from 22 yards is blocked by Tonali.
26 min There’s no extra-time tonight, since you asked. If it’s level after 90 minutes, it goes to the perceived lottery of penalties.
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25 min Newcastle can’t get out of their half. It’s a strange kind of hammering, because Nick Pope has only one had save to make. I suppose City are playing the long game; it rarely fails.
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24 min “Of all the things wrought by VAR, the one I’m okay with is the late flag,” says Kári Tulinius. “That relatively warm feeling may entirely be because of Vincent Aboubakar’s outrageous goal against Serbia at the last World Cup, which looked miles offside in real time, but was given on VAR review.”
I know what you mean, but wasn’t Joe’s point that there’s no, well, point to a late flag if you’re not using VAR?
22 min Have Pep’s City entered their prog rock phrase? There’s a helluva lot of passing for passi… hang on, the moment I type that, they produce a classic chorus that almost cuts Newcastle open. Kovacic plays a one-two with Alvarez and slides a smooth first-time pass through to Grealish, running from out to in. Dummett lunges to make a desperate and vital tackle on the edge of the D. Without that, Grealish would have been in?
20 min Successful passes in the final third: Newcastle 1-39 Man City.
19 min D Cowley writes in with an urgent observation ahout City’s right-sided No8.
18 min Newcastle aren’t getting a kick. Bobb finds space between the lines and reverses a pass to Alvarez, whose low shot across goal is well saved with his right foot by Pope. It was a slightly odd save by Pope, almost like he wasn’t playing an actual game, but a good one nonetheless.
The latest scores in the 7.45pm kick-offs
Aston Villa 0-1 Everton
Blackburn Rovers 1-1 Cardiff City
AFC Bournemouth 0-0 Stoke City
Brentford 0-1 Arsenal
Chelsea 0-0 Brighton & Hove Albion
Fulham 1-0 Norwich City
Lincoln City 0-0 West Ham United
Liverpool 0-1 Leicester City
15 min Official possession percentages: Newcastle 36-64 Man City. Official shots on target, never mind on: Newcastle 0-0 Man City.
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15 min “I’m watching Liverpool v Leicester, and there was one of those delayed offside flags,” says Joe Pearson. “What exactly is the point of that, if there is no VAR? I don’t understand anything anymore.”
Force of habit? Nobody has a clue?
14 min We haven’t seen possession figures yet, though it feels about 30-70. It must be so draining to play against City – mentally, never mind physically.
12 min “I can’t help but notice that the sub bib Grealish was wearing before the game said ‘super DRY’ beneath the Puma logo,” writes Harriet Osborn. “Could Puma really have responded to Castore’s gaffe this quickly?”
I think that refers to Asahi beer, though it’s a happy accident for those at Puma with a taste for oneupmanship.
10 min Hall plays a nice pass to release Isak, one v one with Gvardiola on the edge of the area. Isak moves one way and then the other, but Gvardiola’s blood – and brain – remain defiantly untwisted. He makes a very calm interception, and that’s the end of that.
9 min City are trying to pass Newcastle to sleep, and if they keep this up they might take a few thousand fans with them. It’s technically very impressive but not yet conducive to traditional entertainment. Is it me or have they become even more methodical this season?
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7 min “There’s some sort of son et lumière going on at Brentford, with the stadium dark and two or three spotlights going on and off in time to some music heavy on the beats,” writes Charles Antaki. “The effect is vaguely spooky, in a low budget kind of way, rather than awe-inspiring. Maybe the club making a statement of some kind. But if you want a proper experience, it has to be the Great Pyramid of Giza, or Notre Dame or something of that sort. The San Siro, at a push.”
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5 min Grealish teases Livramento, who stays on his feet and blocks the eventual cross.
4 min “G’Day Rob,” writes Chris Paraskevas. “I feel like the M̶i̶l̶k̶ L̶i̶t̶t̶l̶e̶w̶o̶o̶d̶s̶ ̶C̶h̶a̶l̶l̶e̶n̶g̶e̶ C̶o̶c̶a̶-̶C̶o̶l̶a̶ C̶a̶p̶i̶t̶a̶l̶ ̶O̶n̶e̶ C̶a̶r̶a̶b̶a̶o̶ EFL Cup is a tournament synonymous with the ‘7-Day Free Trial’ offer from your ‘local’ streaming service.
“In the era of illogical fixture congestion, it’s one of those rare occasions when fans, players and coaching staff are aligned in their satisfaction with a dignified early exit, complete with ‘We Go Again’ social media post. Looking forward to seeing Miley, Hall and Livramento this morning by the way: they all look very promising.”
Livramento was tremendous before his injury. Interesting that you feel that way about the Worthington Cup; I thought it might be different for Newcastle fans.
3 min In other tactics news, Ake is playing at left-back with Gvardiol in the middle. Nothing much is happening, hence these increasingly tedious digressions.
2 min Jacob Murphy is limping after a harmless looking challenge in midfield. Actually, it’s Sergio Gomez who is playing on the right wing for City with Oscar Bobb as the right-sided No8. I think; they’re moving all over the place. Stand still FFS!
1 min Peep peep! City kick off from left to right as we watch. Looks like their shape is 4-3-3 with Grealish and Bobb playing wide.
“Never mind mouth-moistening ties, Rob!” weeps Justin Kavanagh. “The very first one on your list has just induced dreadful flashbacks to the 1977 League Cup final between Villa and Everton, that went on forever (well three games). As a young footie fan, I suffered through all these on the telly and (I think) one on the radio. And if memory serves, the ref even called the two captains together at one point to remind them to, you know, play a bit as the country was watching on. My mouth has now gone dry just thinking about it. By the end of it all, I couldn’t even care who won or lost. I was a soccer cynic. The horror. The horror.”
So that’s what this song is about
Here come the players. And here’s a reminder of the teams.
Newcastle (4-3-3) Pope; Livramento, Lascelles, Dummett, Targett; L Miley, Tonali, Hall; Murphy, Isak, Joelinton.
Substitutes: Karius, Trippier, Schar, Gordon, Ritchie, Manquillo, Almiron, Anderson, Bruno Guimaraes.
Man City (possible 4-3-3) Ortega Moreno; Lewis, Akanji, Ake, Gvardiol; Kovacic, Phillips, Gomez; Bobb, Alvarez, Grealish.
Substitutes: Ederson, Carson, Walker, Dias, Haaland, Doku, Nunes, Foden, Hamilton.
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“The MBM chiton,” says Charles Antaki. “Good to hear that Richard Hirst has winkled out the info that it’s a mollusc - that’s more intriguing than the possibility that it was some sort of smart-casual uniform for MBM staffers. Looks comfy.”
Kasey McAteer has put Leicester ahead at Anfield, and Reiss Nelson has done likewise for Arsenal at Brentford. We’ll have occasional updates here, but you can follow all the goals as they go in on wor live scores page.
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“I had to google chiton, and apparently it is a marine mollusc,” says Richard Hirst. “Why does the MBM have one, and why is it unavailable? Did you accidentally eat it with your chips? We need to know.”
Don’t they have a thousand eyes, or am I guilty of casual molluscism again?
Alexander Isak talks to Sky Sports
"Obviously winning 8-0 should give us some kind of confidence..." 😅
— Sky Sports Football (@SkyFootball) September 27, 2023
Alexander Isak with his pre-match thoughts ahead of facing Manchester City 💭 pic.twitter.com/h8KfiHGl5Q
There are nine Carabao Cup ties tonight, quite a few of them mouth-moistening. All are 7.45pm kick-offs except our game, which begins at 8pm.
Aston Villa v Everton
Blackburn Rovers v Cardiff City
AFC Bournemouth v Stoke City
Brentford v Arsenal
Chelsea v Brighton & Hove Albion
Fulham v Norwich City
Lincoln City v West Ham United
Liverpool v Leicester City
Newcastle United v Manchester City
The MBM chiton is unavailable, so the best way to keep up to date with the other games is via our live scores page.
Team news
Newcastle make 10 changes, Manchester City eight, and if you think I’m listing them all you’ve got another thing coming. The survivors from the weekend’s action are Nick Pope, Manuel Akanji, Josko Gvardiol and Julian Alvarez.
The Newcastle team includes a couple of teenages Lewises making their full debuts: Miley, aged 17, and Hall, 19.
The young Norwegian attacker Oscar Bobb makes his full debut for City, while Jack Grealish starts for the first time in a month. No idea what City’s formation is, but I reckon Pep knows.
Newcastle (4-3-3) Pope; Livramento, Lascelles, Dummett, Targett; L Miley, Tonali, Hall; Murphy, Isak, Joelinton.
Substitutes: Karius, Trippier, Schar, Gordon, Ritchie, Manquillo, Almiron, Anderson, Bruno Guimaraes.
Man City (possible 4-3-3) Ortega Moreno; Lewis, Akanji, Ake, Gvardiol; Kovacic, Phillips, Gomez; Bobb, Alvarez, Grealish.
Substitutes: Ederson, Carson, Walker, Dias, Haaland, Doku, Nunes, Foden, Hamilton.
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Preamble
Hello and welcome to live coverage of Newcastle United v Manchester City at St James’ Park. The challenge is to get through tonight without using the phrase “sportswashing derby”. We’ve failed already, but at least we get it over with. Now we’ll digest our food better.
When two Big clubs meet in the early rounds of a domestic competition, it rarely stirs the blood. You know one or probably both will play hybrid teams, and there’s a fair chance one or both won’t be devastated if they lose. And although both managers will make multiple changes tonight, it still feels like a Big game. OK, Quite Big.
Newcastle have unfinished business with the Carabao Cup, having lost last year’s final, and with trophies generally. Manchester City have ongoing business with the Carabao Cup, having won it five times in the last eight seasons, and with trophies generally. Never mind the Treble; the Sextuple is at stake tonight.
Kick off 8pm.
