Manchester United's 4-1 defeat to Manchester City in the derby has led pundits to launch an inquest into Ralf Rangnick and his squad, with some blaming the players and others blaming the manager.
True to form, Roy Keane's post-match rant was directed at the players in the United dressing room.
He said on Sky Sports: "It's no good having moments in games, the match is 90 minutes long and you've got to do it all game long. I don't think the manager [Ralf Rangnick] could have done too much different but, by the time the substitutes came on, the fight was over.
"I don't know who's running that dressing room. Look at [Harry] Maguire, he had a poor game. Is he having battles with [Cristiano] Ronaldo for the captaincy and all these things.
"Egos come into it, you leave egos at the front door, these guys are all about 'how am I looking? Are my boots nice? Is my hair looking good?' Play the game!"
Keane has been a fierce critic of the players since Jose Mourinho's sacking, but it may hold some water when Rangnick's gameplan seemed to be highly effective in the first half, despite a few errors, but then fell away in the second.
Throughout the entire half, United were unable to muster a single shot and City enjoyed an implausible 92% of the possession during a 15-minute period late on. It looked like a team that had shamefully given up.
Stilling alongside Keane, ex-City defender Micah Richards was quick to lay blame at the manager's feet however, stating that United have wasted time by appointing Rangnick.
He said: “Why give him the manager’s job in the first place? We’re talking about the here and now. So what are you doing then, just getting rid of this season?”
"They should have gone for [Antonio] Conte. Conte was available before he went to Spurs and he was the best available manager at the time.
"Just because he doesn't fit the 'Man United Way,' he didn't get in? The 'Man United Way' doesn't exist anymore; they don't win any trophies.
"Conte is a winner. He has come from Inter Milan. Do United not want winners now? He wins. He wins."
This leads to the greater debate around Rangnick. It seems the German is favouring the performances over the results. However, when you're an interim manager, this opens you up for criticism as most in this position are there to secure the best league position possible and maybe some silverware ahead of a more permanent appointment.
The issue is, as Richards said, there is no such thing as the 'Man United Way' anymore and most pundits seem to forget that he is there for the long haul.
The consultancy role he has been given extends past this season so setting the groundwork now for a longer-term project is important.
Overall most fans are behind the plans but it won't be until much further down the line until we see whether it was worth it.
Could it end up looking shortsighted? Absolutely, if it affects the club's plans in appointing a new manager and approaching transfer targets,
But the first half against City showed Rangnick is trying to lay some foundations upon which the next manager can build a new 'Man United Way'.
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