Stuart Dew has been in the furnace with Eddie Jones and compared notes.
Those scribbles have come in handy for the Gold Coast AFL coach this season, who again is under the pump following a frustrating 1-4 start.
Dew spent a week with Jones in Test camp last year while he was still England coach.
He's since been sacked and scooped up by the Wallabies ahead of this year's World Cup.
Dew admits he's tweaked his approach based on that exchange of ideas, incorporating new themes, meetings and communication styles.
But he said one common trait was reinforced.
"Observing the pressure he was under - and he knew - I learnt a fair bit from him in that sense," Dew told AAP ahead of Sunday's clash with North Melbourne.
"If you're relying on articles or opinions on where your feedback is you're looking in the wrong areas ... not that I needed reinforcement there.
"Every coach in every code knows that's reality."
Dew earned a contract extension last season, a deal that looked improbable when his side were teetering at 2-5.
But they finished with a club-best 10 wins and expectations this season have been set at a maiden finals appearance at a minimum.
The Suns let chances slip in losses to Essendon and Fremantle, Dew admitting the difference may have been as simple as kicking straight.
"It was absolute domination in that first half (against the Dockers), it's just execution under pressure," he said.
"It's not an attitude; it's there, we just have to finish our work."
Those losses haven't dented the players' confidence, Dew insists.
"I haven't had to stamp out any doubt; you get your belief through actions and it might not turn straight away but those things will change over time," he said.
"You've got to front up no matter what each time and slowly that will be come ingrained in the players."
The Kangaroos (2-3) lost by 75 points to Brisbane last weekend but led early in that game and have been otherwise competitive.
Ruckman Todd Goldstein will become the seventh Kangaroos player to notch 300 games.
