While discussing Emergency:
Abhinandan: The only person who said ‘let me try to act in this’ was the actor who played Sanjay Gandhi.
Manisha: Not Kangana?
Abhinandan: No, her acting was terrible. Her look was perfect.
Rajyasree: No! There was Kangana and there was Kangana’s nose. Indira had a long nose but it wasn’t like Pinocchio!
This and a whole lot of awful and awesome as Abhinandan Sekhri, Rajyasree Sen and Manisha Pande discuss the TV series Adolescence, the movie Emergency, and the Kunal Kamra controversy.
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00:00 - Introduction
03:19 - Headlines
09:50 - Adolescence
30:50 - Emergency
51:00 - Kunal Kamra controversy
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Manisha: [00:00:00] This is a Newslaundry podcast, and you're listening to Awful and Awesome.
Rajyasree: Hello, hello, this is the OR and Awesome Entertain Rap, episode 3 83. This is Rahi. This is Manisha Pane. Yay. As promised.
Abhinandan: And today we are discussing adolescence, uh, majorly groundbreaking apparently TV series episode. I hope you watched it. We come to that also. No, a film called Emergency,
Rajyasree: no Homework has went up.
Abhinandan: And the al will both of you stop snapping at me before we even started.
Rajyasree: We are just giving insights. Insights, key insights, save
Abhinandan: insights for the reviews. They're also here. Then you have to give insights. Then you are just telling me about how great Bengal is, but or something your life is. There's, and I'm warning you right now, while we are reviewing emergency and we talk about the Bangladesh, we do not want to hear about your family's lineage to [00:01:00] Bangladesh,
Rajyasree: but I can't help it if I'm,
Abhinandan: but you don't talk about it.
Rajyasree: I can't help it. Did you see mom, the vanity jogging in Hyde Park? What wearing She is wearing her slippers, flip flops, rubber slippers. And there's a man behind her who I missed.
Abhinandan: That's, uh, there about four.
Rajyasree: No, but this man is a special man. He's wearing a striped cardigan. He has a furry monkey cap and he has a nice punch.
He's jogging behind her and they are cursing her because she does, it
Manisha: must be hot now in Calta to be like London Park. Oh, London.
Abhinandan: It's not Hype Park is in Calta. Hyde
Rajyasree: Park is, could we have a big Hy Park in Calta and we have a big Ben in Ka? No,
Abhinandan: in ka. It's called the big bond. No,
Rajyasree: don't make fun. Big bone, big bone canal, camera controversy.
Abhinandan: Big, big al camera controversy. Also, we'll be discussing, but before we go to the headlines, I just wanna remind you a, uh, we've got an amazing investigation that took, I think over a year to do of the misuse [00:02:00] of official machinery, uh, by a very well-respected police officer, former police officer. And within that story, something that is damning, that something that could have reached its conclusion of investigation had been followed but was ignored.
Uh, I think it is a very damning indictment, kata of the Delhi Police. So do read that report. It is in the link, is in the show notes below. This is what it looks like. And also do, contribute to our series of. Investigating police across India, we're gonna be covering at least five states governed by different parties because police ex excesses and atrocities are, you know, ubiquitous no matter who's in power.
As Al Cameras case also demonstrated. Uh, and our journalism should only be supported by you, not by Sari ads, not by large corporations. So the QR code is here, the link is here. I keep purging you. Please subscribe, man. I can also [00:03:00] do the same.
Manisha: Yes, please do subscribe to the story. It took about three to four months to do this, uh, at least more than that.
But the, the bulk of it happened, uh, within the past three, four months. It's behind the paywall. It's very important story. Subscribe to it. You'll also, with your subscription, get to listen to amazing things like a new interview that we have with Rasman who investigated the Bo Force case. So Plenty. Yeah.
You get for your subscription.
Abhinandan: Yes.
Manisha: Full,
Abhinandan: correct. And, uh, now sen coming to the headlines
Rajyasree: in good news, the CBI has filed a closure report. In the case of actor Hanin Raj Bud's Death giving r Chakravarti a Clean Chi. Finally,
Abhinandan: in bad news, some members, the Hindi film speaking in R support, have asked the media to apologize for causing deep harassment and anguish to r for TRPs.
Hmm. And that's bad news because it ain't ever gonna happen. I mean, after this last night, instead of Na [00:04:00] Kumar saying, I'm so ashamed at the way times now, and I myself cover this, I, you know, the Earth should just open. I'm feeling so modified. No, she was saying what happened to Al Camera and us when we say how we were harassed.
It's about you Baab. You have chat on your viewers, this
Manisha: kind of campaign
Abhinandan: and yeah, you are saying. Us watch about us also,
Rajyasree: you can at least see, you know, we got it really wrong on the Dr. Shakti case and at least say that margin something. But they say that
Manisha: if it was, I mean, what we saw, but they don't think
Rajyasree: anything is wrong with how they covered it.
They most probably do think that.
Manisha: Yeah, we were just finding leads on an investigation. We were
Rajyasree: doing investigation. Investigation. I don't that've seen
Manisha: something as bad as it was horrible.
Rajyasree: And to me, what is worse as a Bengali? As a Bengali, I really do think this, this is another thing that because she was a Bengali single woman, this thing of therefore she must be a Rell and therefore she was, yeah, they
Abhinandan: were [00:05:00] actually about jadu to
Rajyasree: Jadu toner and all.
And that girl, she was a very young woman at that point. Yeah. Served time in jail and has come out. I have to say, I find it so impressive. Her interviews from the time till she went into jail and from the time she came outta jail are so dignified. So composed.
Kunal Kamra: Yeah.
Rajyasree: And it must be horrible. She said that nobody was signing me.
The only people who signed her back was MTV roadies. If MTV roadies had not signed her back as a whatever jar, she had no work, she'd have no work. Which is what
Abhinandan: might have a canal now. Yeah. And
Rajyasree: I didn't think she'd come out
Manisha: of
Rajyasree: it, but she has, she's very impressive. Good for, good for her. And she is like, I think she's quite a problem.
But nikas all
Abhinandan: about you. Poor you. You are being harassed, you poor. You
Rajyasree: remember when Nika came with the handbag? And she said in my handbag, are these transcripts. And then she pulled out in a big handbag. She had those auntie handbags, which are lots of things in them. Anyway, the bad
Abhinandan: news [00:06:00] addressing questions about the 31 year age gap between him and Rashika manana in the upcoming film.
Second Salman can said jab. Heroin problem. No, sorry, I should say it like this. You have hero problem there, right?
Manisha: Terrible. That's very bad. My God. Don't make fun of
Rajyasree: a man who just ran over a few people.
Manisha: There's no
Rajyasree: in in worse news. He then went on to say in Ishay
permission,
Abhinandan: no, you have sit like, no please. Nonsense. In good news, Hinde supporters expressed the chief Seha style of passion, yet again
Rajyasree: in bad news, it was by vandalizing a comedy club in Bombay. The habitat after, uh, comedian Canal Cmra joked about Hinde being a treater, although he
Abhinandan: didn't mention Hinde, but [00:07:00] no, they assumed it is.
They're very smart.
Manisha: No, I mean, that's clear Hinde, but this is hence proved. They are the real chef. Sen. Yeah, they're, they're, this is, there's no debate now. Hinde Senna is the real center,
Rajyasree: is the real chef. Ena. So,
Abhinandan: right. So now on that note, ri san, should we start with. Emergency.
Rajyasree: Yeah. Because, uh, both of you have watched it.
I have been told. So by, uh, my inside sources that both Manisha and Nan took the time and effort to watch Emergency kra. It's uh, like, she's like awesome wells. And this, because she's written it, she's directed it. She's acted it, she produced it. Oh my god. And, uh, I
Manisha: think her entire production companies sustain and her production.
Yeah. Depends on this, on this on. Why
Abhinandan: did you make that snaring? You haven't seen it?
Manisha: I haven't seen it.
Abhinandan: Oh, so why you put that same category? I've seen it. You watched one
Rajyasree: half or minutes of it.
Manisha: Oh, you've seen it? Okay. Then one half or minutes. Haven't assumed I haven't seen it.
Rajyasree: Yeah, because you are, 'cause you haven't seen Address reputation [00:08:00] precedes you.
Abhinandan: The thing is, okay, before we come to emergency, I just wanna point out. I wanted to watch adolescents. I had full intention, I had ration time, but you won't believe Sen, let's hear what the cat
Manisha: TV choose. Emergency, or I
Abhinandan: have the dog ate the last, I have three excuses. Take your pic. One is,
Rajyasree: let's see, which is the real one?
Yeah. Which, okay. One,
Abhinandan: I read a few articles about it. I think one of them you had only shared, uh, or maybe Nia had shared that. Okay. It, uh, it's a really disturbing watch, especially for people in the manover, that's what you call it. Mansfield. Man. Man
Rajyasree: also. And,
Abhinandan: uh, so many people on social media say that I'm, uh, delinquent manchild.
Yeah. I thought it could actually do, it
Rajyasree: could be triggering trigger, huh?
Abhinandan: That's, that's why reason one, reason second. Second reason is sen that, um, you won't believe sen that, uh. You know the [00:09:00] nation's league is happening.
Rajyasree: Oh my God, what is that? So like
Abhinandan: coco football. So now football, there are two matches that I had to watch.
One was France versus,
Rajyasree: okay,
Abhinandan: okay. Uh, now you made me feel, forget where is moderate. Anyway, one was Spain versus Netherlands.
Rajyasree: And,
Abhinandan: and France was Croatia.
Rajyasree: Then what happened?
Abhinandan: Now that's at two in the morning. They, no, they actually at 1130, which I had rationed my time very well
Rajyasree: then. But
Abhinandan: what happened was that both, first, in the first 10 minutes, Spain gets spent.
This is
Rajyasree: very boring. Second, third reason.
Abhinandan: They third, basically it was two on two. It was supposed to be 90 minutes. Then it went to extra time. They went to penalties. So both matches, that should have been 90 minutes each. But you were gonna watch this before 11:00 PM Now you weren gonna watch after. So then the matches only got over at 3:00 PM Uh, 3:00 AM they should have got over it.
But 2, 1 45, you were gonna
Rajyasree: watch this at 1 45,
Abhinandan: 4 hours. Put 45 minutes for each. Okay. Third reason. Third reason is, uh, cow, it my laptop.
Rajyasree: That's the real [00:10:00] one because the others are bullshit. So, adolescence, which Abana should have watched, given that he has children in his care is a British crime drama, uh, which is Stephen Graham, the who's also an actor, has directed this.
And, uh, it is a four part, four part series. Yeah. And it's a very simple story. You get it right in the beginning there's no, and now it's been, uh, written about so much. So they're, yeah. It's not a who done it, first of all. Basically a 13-year-old schoolboy in England is called Jamie Miller, who's very sweet looking and seems to be very soft spoken and like, seems to be like a normal well-mannered and a well mannered 13-year-old is, uh, he is at home with his parents and the cops break in, break down the door, break into the house, and they arrest him on charges of murdering another third, a 14-year-old girl from [00:11:00] his school.
And the next, the four episodes are about. Mainly about why this has happened, because right in the beginning itself, you see a video of him stabbing the girl. Yeah. So it's not, that is not up for right discussion. Did he do it? He's clearly done it because of the video. Why did he do it? That's why did he do it, is the thing.
And I have to see that. It is by far one of the most, uh, gut-wrenching series that I have seen. And I don't even have children, but I'm surrounded by all my friends have decided to have many children. So I'm surrounded by many children and, uh, Mindy boys, like you cannot blame just parents or just the school.
There's this thing always of assigning blame, right? Who is the negative influence? Or was someone, uh, did someone not pay enough attention to the child? The main point of the series is that there is no one. [00:12:00] Factor that you can blame. And parents usually, and he has a perfectly normal home. There's no great ang like the parents won't argue that much, nothing like that.
But you can't blame the parents of what happened nor the school, nor the friends alone. But it also addresses, it mainly addresses what many people don't realize, the kind of bullying that happens in school, the kind of misogyny that is inculcated into boys nowadays. Uh, the entire effect of Andrew Tate and kids, he, he feed in the Yeah.
Yeah. And his school of, uh, I mean, he doesn't feature in It is Yeah, but there's a reference to the Yeah, yeah. There's quite a strong, so
Abhinandan: I mean, of course a lot has been written about it. Uh, but, uh, before we take Manisha's, take on this and, uh, like to know what her insights are, one of the emails is about this show.
Rajyasree: Yeah.
Abhinandan: Uh, by Anima. So Anma says, hi, RA.[00:13:00]
Rajyasree: Apropos adolescence, adolescent, apropo, apropo. Apropo. Oh, it's Apropo. He's also making me bigger. My,
Abhinandan: you're blaming me because you don't not pronou the word. Okay. You
Rajyasree: look for the cow. Who that
Manisha: reminds me of like my early days of editing. Man, who uses Apropo anymore? No one
Abhinandan: picked off. You went picked by managing editor.
Do not use that in future emails. But thank you so much. Your email by the way, we only, but it's
Manisha: very classic. I must, we only enter the emails of
Abhinandan: subscribers. So if you're a subscriber, you can mail us@podcastsatnews.com. Repeat podcasts@news.com and get, tell us what we've got right, what we've got wrong.
What we should do more or what we should less of which you reviewed last week. Actually, we didn't. She just said a few things I
Rajyasree: did mention. No, no, I just, I agree
Abhinandan: with you. Ab then this whole one shot thing is a bo and nothing but artistic virtue signaling. Take as many shots as you need filmmakers. We, the viewers don't care.
Just make it interesting. I also found the storyline of girl and Raging Boy to the point of murder by calling an in celibate insidious, like he proved her point by killing her girls get called slut [00:14:00] whore and many worse things. And yet there is no epidemic, epidemic of female violence against men. Maybe I'm being too touchy.
Let me know your thoughts. Sova. My thoughts are, I, I, I swear on my mother. I wanted to watch the show, I swear on my mother, but a cow ate my laptop and the football went to extra. I'm, so we have two ladies to tell you what they think. So I, so Manisha, what do you think? Can others also talk? Uh,
Rajyasree: no, I'm saying say about point.
Yeah, I'm just saying it's, that's the whole point that female violence, despite whatever the amount of abuse that is, uh. Targeted towards women is lower than male, violence against people, against women, against girls, and so on, and it tries to get to the bottom of this, that why do men. Feel like they are so slighted because it does talk about the bullying that he faces also.
But that's not justification for stabbing death's, not justification at all. And they don't try to see like, so, uh, like
Manisha: you were saying, it's not a who done it right from the first [00:15:00] episode. You know who the killer is. And the series looks into why and my favorite. Um, if you haven't watched the show, then don't listen to this because I will give some scholars.
Yeah. My favorite, uh, episodes are episode three and four. Third episode is, is really intense conversation between the child and a counselor. The counselor is supposed to be figuring it out now that this guy has committed a crime, he's 13, is he aware of the gravity of what he's done? So it's a conversation, it's a back and forth.
And you see him lash out at her in the most aggressive, violent way. You suddenly see that part. You suddenly see him say things like, you know, get this in your. Little brain, you know, down, yeah. Is down. Getting into your little
Rajyasree: brain
Manisha: until the third episode, like what you were saying, I was wondering, it has to be the father because we are so trained to as it has to be
Rajyasree: the father who's impact on him.
What I felt
Manisha: like through the episode, I was thinking that, okay, this couldn't be the kid just picking this up from somewhere. He's seen this, he's seen his father talk like that to his mother. There has to be something like this, which will be the big reveal of the episode four. [00:16:00] Episode four. You see the father who's this really regular guy, very loving towards the wife, very nice towards the daughter.
He's not this guy at all. He's not. At all. You know, he, he's
Rajyasree: not volatile. He's not volatile. He's not volatile. He's,
Manisha: he's, in fact, he's a very gentle guy. And the whole fourth episode is about him really questioning where he went wrong. That what, where did I go wrong? And he says this line that, you know, him and his, he was in his room all this while and we thought he'd be safe in his room, what could we have done?
And that is, that's
Abhinandan: the internet. Oh, okay.
Manisha: And that is what it totally, that's a reveal. That is that it totally appends our understanding of who's raising our kids. Like when we grew up, it was our parents, our friends, and the teachers. Yeah. Till about 12 three. So
Rajyasree: school was very important. Yeah. I mean, I
Manisha: had internet when I was in ninth, but it was a cyber cafe.
I'd go to a cyber cafe and there was I when I
Rajyasree: was 19, but
Manisha: it
Rajyasree: came, like those males came
Manisha: and that only by 21 did, I had a laptop. And so the influence of internet [00:17:00] wasn't that much. And this is telling you the reality of today that actually you may have nothing to do at all with how your child is raised, because there is this.
Mass of information out there, which is shaping your child.
Rajyasree: And there's a world of real language. I think that's
Manisha: a very interesting thing that this show does that who's really raising up kids today. And the the single short thing, I, I thought it was really
Rajyasree: like,
Manisha: it
Rajyasree: really takes you, it's in your face some, see, I would not know
Manisha: if somebody hadn't told me they haven't done it, even, I would
Rajyasree: not have known.
But
Manisha: there's a certain claustrophobia to this episodes, which I wonder if it's because they shot it in a single cam. Like the last episode is like, I think almost 30% of the show is in a car. The family in a car, they're going, you know, to a shop and it's just feels really like tight and constricted and you feel like you wanna get out of the car.
So there, there are scenes which make you feel like maybe that's, maybe that's a technical, maybe enhance. Yeah. But all of
Abhinandan: that you can achieve the same. [00:18:00] For example, you can seem. Like a single shot without it being a single shot. Of course you can stitch things together. Technology allows that. So what my point was that it's a, it's saying, it's a, see, I can do this.
It's gimmicky, but to be Oh, I could be wrong.
Rajyasree: Yeah. To be fair in any of that would be hard for you to be fair. In any of the interviews or, uh, promotional stuff. Steven Graham really doesn't talk about the one take. It's other people who, because he talks about why he made this show. I saw that interview phase with Jimmy Fallon.
What's
Abhinandan: the that not Jimmy Fallon, the other guy that Jimmy Kimmel. Not Jimmy Kimmel, the other guy, the who dances and sings in his show. Jimmy Kimmel? No, no, not Jimmy Kimmel doesn't dance and sing. Oh, okay. The second
Manisha: thing, I really like this one particular scene. So there's this thing of appending who's raising your kids now after the murder has happened and he's convicted?
I mean, he's almost gonna get convicted. People know. The family's getting harassed. People are spray painting on the van, writing all sorts of shit, and there's a scene where he goes to the store [00:19:00] to buy paint to spray over it. And there's this guy who just comes up to the father and offers support. You know that I'm with your son.
What he did was right, and I don't even think it was murder. And he's horrified at the fact that. There are these random men coming up to me and saying that they support my son
Abhinandan: and his name is Elvis. No, no.
Manisha: A follower of Elvis. So it kind of drives home that point that today actually in this world of internet, you could do anything.
And you could have supporters. You would have supporters, okay. Of course, for the worst of things. And I think it's very subtly these things they play. So it's never preachy. It's never in your face. It's never like, oh, toxic man. Man, whatever. Masculinity, manosphere. Look what they're doing to you. I mean, the storytelling is very beautiful.
It's in very subtle, even
Rajyasree: though people who are investigating the people who break down the door and come into arrest him, then take him to the, uh, police station, the guy who's taking down his details before he's put into that room. But
Manisha: Raia was thinking that this is a difference between first assault.
Yeah. And you know, they are so, so nice to the kid [00:20:00] who's committed a crime. Like
they're not they being him, but they treat
Rajyasree: him with, there's a lot of basic
Abhinandan: human dignity. Yeah.
Rajyasree: There's
Manisha: a lot of
Rajyasree: dignity there for. And the cop tells him, I'm just giving you some advice. Ask for a lawyer, like, take the lawyer. And when you are asked anything about the crime. Say no comment as of now. Wait till your lawyer comes.
Like, you know, they're being, and they're even the two cops, the, uh, nurse who comes in, they're like, we don't want to investigate. It's not something you look forward to, a juvenile murderer. Right. But it is that, uh, but system is there to
Manisha: kind of understand the fact that it's a 13-year-old nonetheless.
Yeah. It's a heinous crime. Yeah. It's a murder. It's a stabbing. Some seven stabs seven times.
Rajyasree: He stabs a seven times,
Manisha: but it's still a 13 year old's brain that has done it. So I think that that the, and you see
Rajyasree: different kinds of children also who none of them are [00:21:00] black and white. Yeah. Like even her best friend, the one who is skilled, her best friend, is clearly a bit of a troubled child, has a difficult, uh, has a single mother.
At least that's what's alluded to. And you don't, for a second thing, that they were involved in any kind of bullying. Like, they seem like girls who might have just had a bit of an attitude. But, but yeah,
Manisha: but I mean, I wasn't blown away in the sense, because I've read about these UK tablets, so it wasn't new to me.
But I think the way they put it was just very,
Abhinandan: but what he, very subtle. But what, uh, the director, when I saw his interior, what he said is where he got the idea to do this is that it's such, he's this, this investigating happened. Yeah. In, you know, two different parts and yet they were so similar. But you know what you said about no matter how heinous a thing you do, you will always have people supporting you or fans.
This is a thing in the us you know, the fan mail that convicted criminals dead? Yeah, of course. So there's a film called The Paperboy. It's a 2012 film starring John Cusack. [00:22:00] Nicole Kidman. It's a, I would recommend you watch it. It's a very depressing film. Uh, it is a horrible film. Uh, Nicole Kidman plays this, you know, white trash person who writes these letters and wants to marry this guy who's convicted of murder.
And, uh, just how that plays out and how it's, it's just very, very depressing. But this is a thing, uh, of, uh, you know, convict when, what's his name? The guy and, and what's her name? Tate Murders. What was his name?
Rajyasree: Charles Manson. Charles
Abhinandan: Manson used to get fan mail. Yeah. They
Rajyasree: all get, they get a lot of, uh, fan mail.
People have gotten married.
Abhinandan: Gets of mail, there's nothing, you can never, many killers, you can never, well we, they're not killers, but you never know what kind of done impact we are having with this show of people, you know? So, but even we, the, so people even like this show, so
Manisha: the kids acted brilliantly. The
Rajyasree: Cade, who has never acted before, this is his first rule and he's so, he's so, I saw that [00:23:00] audition, like the,
Manisha: the switch he does between innocence and evil is very, and it's not
Rajyasree: even evil, it's just he's suddenly very angry.
He's suddenly, well, you can tell he's playing
Manisha: the counselor scenes. You can tell he's very crafty at times. He's playing her, he knows exactly what he say. He's cute, he's
Rajyasree: a little charming. He's sweet. Then he's just, but I got scared in the third episode. I was, when you scream numb, how is
Manisha: this woman not No, but she tries.
She gets, yeah, she tries at end of it.
Rajyasree: Like it's because, and he's not a big child. He's a very wiry, slim child. Like you would think that someone big would be able to control him, but the way when he gets up and start shouting and then says, I'm so sorry. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't mean to, so,
Abhinandan: so I mean, you'd say this is something you'd recommend for people.
They should get their kids to watch, or that's too deserving for that. 'cause I'm thinking that if you really want to address, or at least you cannot eliminate, but minimize the ill impacts of the [00:24:00] manosphere on your male children or boys or even girls, should be aware of the kind of, what would you know, be a good.
Deterrent would be something like this. Because if adults are so disturbed, maybe it can, you know, shake. Like for example, when I was really young.
Rajyasree: Hmm.
Abhinandan: And uh, you watch
Rajyasree: Omen and you said, oh my God, that's me, huh. You
Abhinandan: know, rash, you say the most horrible things. And yet in the mail that we get, everyone says, I saw, 'cause I'm
Rajyasree: just acting out.
It's years of persecution by Avan. Sorry, I'm saying, do you think it's a good way to make. All my friends have watched with older children. No. No. What? What?
Abhinandan: At what age? 13, 14. 13, 14 boys. I'm not,
Manisha: I don't know many 13 year olds. But do they talk like, I guess 13 year olds now not talk about sex. They know everything, right?
Like they know
Rajyasree: everything.
Abhinandan: I don't think that's true for this age. I think that's been true for even my generation.
Rajyasree: So yeah. So then you can watch it with your
Manisha: kid, for sure. Sorry,
Rajyasree: what? Sorry. It's simpler. We did not, we're SL. [00:25:00] You remember L? If you put eight
Manisha: sex location, you don't know Yahoo. Chat Messenger.
None of you did then. Internet. No, I had okc. We had okc. Really? You know
Rajyasree: what is okc? Okc? Yeah. It's like a chat engine Messenger. High five. High five.
Abhinandan: We were in class two. Our dormitory was under the dormitory of the class seven. Oh, so you known everything. So we, whether we wanna know or not, they can't tell you.
Yeah. Do you know what this is? Do you know how you came, you know, church? Church? So
Rajyasree: there was so no. So I'd watch it with a teenager. Yeah. Yeah. You can watch it with your teenager. And I do think, uh, for people who, because I've seen younger children do this and parents allow their children to do this, that they say that they aren't on social media, but they are playing Minecraft or something where there are players from across the world.
Do y'all even know what is discussed in those chat rooms? There are chat rooms that get formed in those video [00:26:00] games. There are people, there's some 70-year-old molester who is chatting with your 10-year-old child and your 10-year-old child thinks that that is another 10-year-old he's chatting with. It is good to be careful, but how careful can you be nowadays?
I think it's
Manisha: very important for parents. Also, another thing which I really like is when the cop is basically trying to figure out. What the case is and his son helps him. He says, it's very embarrassing to see you bumble around like this. Yeah. This is what these chats mean. And then the whole world kind of open up it.
They even from me, didn't it? Open up? He's up. My God. And then the, it ends with him just wanting to spend time with his son to just understand his universe. And I think that's happening with a lot of parents today. 'cause your kids are so engrossed. Yeah. In their online world, you also tend to let them be also kids are So maybe it's important to kind of
Rajyasree: Yeah.
Also, kids of any generation, I feel know how to play their parents. We know how to play. Like, you know, you knew what I knew, knew what I could tell my father, one of the evil ones. No, I didn't know. Ha, we, I knew what I could get away with, with my [00:27:00] father, what I could get away with. Like, you know, you know that dynamic kids nowadays are far smarter than we ever.
Anyway,
Abhinandan: there's this, uh, show, uh, called, it's Been a Minute. It's an NPR show. And last year they've done, uh, one called Make America Male. Again, 15 years of aggrieved man, you know, explores the, make, make Male Again Male again. That's a good line. So the, you know, male, uh, loneliness epidemic, which. Some shit doesn't exist, but it's interesting.
It, you know, it tries to explore things from that angle. So, yeah. But I will definitely watch this. Ashi said, yeah, at a You should. I will. Yeah. But don't look at, don't look at me like your teacher. You should. You should this short, but don't expect
Manisha: it. You should. To be blown away by it, just watch it. A no.
Yeah. Don't,
Rajyasree: we built it up now everyone's built it up. But I, what is also really nice about the series is it's not preachy.
Manisha and Rajyasree: Yeah. It's not all,
Rajyasree: it's not at all preachy. No one's saying, oh, you know, you should not do this. Usually, like, it's not made by me. [00:28:00] So it's not preachy. It's very, it's worth a water and I'm so impressed by Steven Graham that two also act that well, and what a show to put together.
They interviewed the auditions and some of the
Manisha: pops are very old. I guess men of all generation have spoken like that, but it's just the onslaught of how you can access this on the internet 24 7 now. I think that's what kind of. That 80 20 thing that I didn't, that the 80 20 thing
Rajyasree: I did not know. You know, the 80 20 thing?
Yeah, yeah. Sorry. 80, 80% women
Abhinandan: are
Rajyasree: 20%, 20% of men. And the other 80% of men are just going like off their rocker. Right. But uh, you can watch it on Netflix and you should,
Abhinandan: right. And you should.
Rajyasree: That being key.
Manisha: And,
Rajyasree: and
Manisha: there's a, you should watch White Lotus also. It's fun
Rajyasree: and White Lotus, which we will talk about, but we will talk about the other film that everyone should watch, which is also on Netflix.
Emergency, emergency, emergency. But
Abhinandan: before that, he says, hello, you two awesome hosts.
Rajyasree: That's [00:29:00] us,
Abhinandan: both of you. You're talking what? No,
Rajyasree: that's us. The two personalities of me, my
Abhinandan: friend, loved a's notes on Severances latest season. It was good to know we weren't the only people questioning it after praising first season.
So handsomely in recent episode, aand had a poem from Maya Angelou. Actually the format is Society was written by me. The one that she played with. How can you be
Manisha: confused with, man? Come on. No,
Abhinandan: no. He means the one you showed. While he was doing that, it reminded me of Jeffrey Asme for, so I think he write, he,
Rajyasree: the poem he recited was by him, not by Maya Angelou.
Maya Angelou doesn't write poems like that. That's what I just said. No, but I'm ta after that. I said, no, no. He's referring to the video that you showed. No. Like Kefi. I also feel you're like Kemi.
Abhinandan: While he was doing that, ran of Kefi poem, put Mary John recited by Ko Kefi herself. That recitation remains my favorite.
Also, kefi apparently recited this Na to Shaka, [00:30:00] who he later married to Hur. Here's the link to her recitation.
Rajyasree: I don't think anyone's marrying a and then after hearing his dissertation, but I have, you know, many people
Abhinandan: thought it was vagueness for him. Oh,
Rajyasree: did I say? It's not nice for him? I'm, I'm commenting on our people marrying you after hearing the ation. No
Abhinandan: wants marrying old man. Hey, thanks again for all the awesome banter you two have.
Rajyasree: Thank you. What is he saying, George Clooney? Robert De Niro, Leon. Everyone wants marry hot. No, but [00:31:00] hot old men, everybody wants marry. Okay, good for you. I'm just saying.
Abhinandan: Now. Emergency is, uh, a movie directed by k
Manisha: written. We all know that. Just tell us an important part. How is it?
Abhinandan: So, okay.
Manisha: Tell us the importance.
Hostile.
Manisha and Rajyasree: Hostile, yes.
Abhinandan: I'll refer to the notes. Let's start with the things that worked. The only person who said, let me try to act in this and try to look slightly sincere and honest and do a reasonable job. Was the character who played Sanjay Gandhi. Uh, who's not
Rajyasree: Kna?
Abhinandan: No. No. Kanas acting was terrible. Her look was perfect.
Rajyasree: No, her nose was, there was Kana and there was Kanas nose. Indra had a long nose, but it was not like Pinocchio nose like this. Yeah. And at one point her nose had changed. I felt. Like gone a little crooked like that.
Abhinandan: I, I don't know. So, so V Shark n played Sanjay Gandhi, I think he's the only one who Yeah.
Came out looking, not the character, but he came out looking [00:32:00] like he's trying to act and do something with this role. Everybody else was just. I dunno what the fuck they were doing. I thought her look was perfect. I think she looked the part, she just acted a little demented, like I don't think in, wasn't always doing, also in
Rajyasree: didn't have like what are you
Manisha and Rajyasree: not.
She's, and then
Abhinandan: blink, she's, no, she basically, she was like in GTI sometimes, and she would talk, I remember sometimes she would like look sideways and start her sentence from one corner, but she wasn't doing that all the time. She wasn't like she would hell,
Rajyasree: so her voice was not that I would urge K ran Now to watch the interview that this one gave, gave to a French, uh, journalist then to BB, C.
In fact, she had a very, she had a very balanced, so I watched that again. I thought maybe I am [00:33:00] forgetting because this is how speak No, that's not what I was saying. She's not demented. Yeah. She's in The other
Abhinandan: person who clearly was very badly discussed was the person who played Avan. It was played by Han Pania.
Yeah. Now I have had the good pleasure of meeting Avan and other than meeting him in person and dealing with him and the reputation he had as a political fixer, secretary seldom has a man with such a sleazy reputation and power. I mean, come about in Indian politics, the Alban here looks such like dignified, such like he was the bright spot of the Congress.
He was
All: So he was, he was Punjabi.
Rajyasree: No, but my mom.
Han's, very respectable. I said he's not respectful. So, so basically, so over [00:34:00] here,
Abhinandan: I don't know how, what research they did, but clearly that was the second thing. Then, uh, Bahar, GJ had a deserted look while filming. The filming of Emergency asked me Why.
Rajyasree: Right? Because the hippies are not descended,
Abhinandan: because all the whites that had to be cast as Richard Nixon have been taken.
Art not taken. Yeah. Kar, we are here backpacking and we have a budget of a hundred rupees. You are Nixon.
All: Thousand rupees. You're Nixon thousand rupees. And that guy who's smoking a doobie is kissing you. Kissing what? Name Young man. Come you're French president. Why
Rajyasree: also K Khan did you
Abhinandan: see that you missed?
That says
Rajyasree: yay. So all the, A
All: character from her seventies,[00:35:00]
Rajyasree: all the villains of the Peace look villain. Like if I saw Yaya K down the road in Savoia, I would be like, that man is going to come and stab me up. Every dictator does not look like he's murderous.
Abhinandan: So desert, look while filming emergency, the guy who played at looked exactly ka, so he should have been Kamal.
They should have somehow ka. Also, he and George Fernandez, just because
Rajyasree: he's out in the sun a little bit. I've met George Fernandez. I. Spend time. When he was older, he did not look so like, you know, it's like communist. He used to hang out of strains and all one person they've done what is wrong with you?
M was his family. What, saying, what is this movie, by the way, this character[00:36:00]
is also there looking, he's,
Abhinandan: he's made pointing that the power of Indra as as a, he painted her as ra I think as, yeah, so I think the person who played, uh, his name is, I think that has got to be, you know, if we were to say who was the worst cast, it would be a tough one. I think that should have been a USP emergency.
Come watch emergency. Yeah. Tell us who's the worst cast and win an award. It would've done very well. K, next time come to me for the, I think wouldn't, but she didn't have
Rajyasree: the balls to show one character who don't,
Abhinandan: don't you sexist thing, uh, gendered by saying she didn't have the balls to show. You're suggesting that only men have courage.
See, see, as Mata had said, women's are the biggest
Rajyasree: enemies of the women. This is true. But she did not show the bra that no one will touch Thera Bras role in [00:37:00] the sink. Krishna Mutti there. But
Abhinandan: Rashi, you would've made a better rah her than the person. So to get a,
Rajyasree: yeah. Very bad. And he was so pretty when she was young.
Also if I was, man, when I meet her, I would say, dude, at least car, someone who was man pan
Abhinandan: ding,
Rajyasree: must be her neighbor in Bandra. She also said, I'll give you one rule. The one who was not bad was Mima. Chori as po. She acted. She acted well,
Abhinandan: the female Al. Also, the background score was overdone, and if it was overdone, at least get it done nicely.
The. Ah, whenever Indra would walk and the female, ah, what it's like, basically whenever Indra's walking or she's thinking, you know, the camera would pull back and there would be female vocals. Ah,[00:38:00]
All: that your take.
Rajyasree: I said
Abhinandan: it. Okay. So then they're used
Rajyasree: be horror Shona. Ah,
Abhinandan: yeah. Like that. So basically that. So, and then whenever and when, uh, man, man coming in. Fucking, even if you don't have manic Shaw, you could have just had the music and I, no. Yeah. Okay. Manic Shaw is supposed to walk in now. It was, everyone's entry was with so much.
Yeah. Then, uh, background score over the top. Predictably, not any good dialogue was written by the same guy who did the background score because it was so bad. Or maybe Kang did the dialogue. K was so badly written. I'm not joking. Amateur dramatics can write better script than that. Then the makeup was so bad.
And look, if you have low budget for makeup, then keep shots long. Don't come close. Now. I watched it on a laptop. Imagine how to watch screen. I watched it on Millions Mo I was like, Ang of the dude that mush was what the fuck? And the [00:39:00] makeup. Oh my God. So bad. So bad. Uh, then, uh, on these also, Milam is very good looking.
Rajyasree: Yeah. I have to say he's such a handsome man. He, each time
Abhinandan: I see him, I'm like, what a handsome man.
Rajyasree: But I will, okay. I won't, huh? Mo
Manisha: sound equally dapper.
Abhinandan: So now the thing is, I think the biggest, I mean, of course this whole, all these things were terrible. The execution was terrible. But now let's come to
Manisha: in, how was she shown?
Abhinandan: Yeah. The, the story, in fact, it was quite sympathetic to Indra, did you not do So? I think that is why she was caught in the middle. Mm. The Congress did not make a big deal of shutting it down because it showed Indra more as a victim and her figure. And she navigated in India through a very difficult time, you know, of all movies these, you know, 56 inch V guru, someone of his caliber to navigate India through the 71 war.
And all that would be. I mean, I don't think someone like people pull it off.
Rajyasree: Also, Modi [00:40:00] has not gone by himself with and in there did go, which the Gandhi still do. Mm-hmm. Of going and meeting people. Yeah. Without paraphernalia. Not all. She's actually shown
Abhinandan: quite, yeah. So it's very, so I think the BJ P was pissed off.
That dude you've shown her in a decent life. Yeah. And the, so basically it was Scott in that sense she was caught in a
Manisha: no man's nomans land. Yeah. So
Abhinandan: I think the other thing, what was deeply flawed with this film was it could not decide whether it's a biopic or it's a film or the emergency. 'cause she said it's about the emergency.
Mm. If it was at the emergency, they don't have to show her an and all that. You cannot show film about the emergency without at least spending some time on Raan. Raan is shown in one shot during the trial, one shot Sunday. And how do you know Raan? Because those of us who have bothered to see what he looks like read about him would know.
He used to have that. But if you don't know ra, you don't even know Ra is in this film. [00:41:00] He was very key. Emergency being imposed. And, um, j Ance called to complete, I, I say
Manisha: jp. How's that?
Abhinandan: JP is played by, uh, uh, a so if, if JP had been, now you know
All: how it's
Abhinandan: had been sent to a well-fed jp. So why watching
Rajyasree: I was on my laptop, I was watching it on the tv, and I was googling the people to see, am I not remembering what they actually looked like?
They, so JP was another, and there was, uh, Roy, she does show, he was very, uh, like influential in corrupting, not corrupting, but telling her like call for, yeah. He was her basically emergency black dog.
Abhinandan: The, the, the mean, yeah. So, so it's historically very clumsy. It is. If you're making a film about a significant historical event.
Focus on the history.
Manisha: Yeah.
Abhinandan: And also focus on the makeup a little [00:42:00] bit, but fine. Even if you don't wanna focus on the makeup. Also, when
Rajyasree: was only shown for 15, 20 minutes of the film, she, I dunno what the fuck that show was. Emergency is 20 minutes like that. The rest is, it's about her life. Also, ALAH Naru was not afraid of his daughter.
They, it carries on showing that he's almost not at all specified of her. And he, he was quite besotted by his daughter. And if anyone had done basic research, they would have, uh, figured that out. Not at all. Where did
Manisha: she get that from? From, yeah. From, it's
Abhinandan: just, it is, it is such a terrible film at every level.
And it's sad because Kana is a fantastic artist actually. Yeah. Yeah.
Manisha: She's a great actor.
Abhinandan: So I think, I don't know
Manisha: her skills Directing act Yeah. Scripting and all. But she's a great actor. Yeah. So had
Abhinandan: a director been directing. And not her, that director could have said, stop doing that all the time. Be normal.
So, and uh, then Atal singing was the most, most bizarre when Atal and [00:43:00] Jeffrey, I'm not singing in pa, musicals are off. Like, I have seen like film, like Dancer in the Dark, such a tragic film in the most tragic times, BJO breaks into song. But the film is stylized like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. To be, or even Hindi films.
The film about Sam Manic show had songs, films, you know, the most tragic films have songs, you know, Mina, Ari, you know, Muglia had songs. So you can, it's an integral part of Indian cinema, but the songs are, the film is made such, it is not that, you know, jet Percussion says now we will have. Samy.
All: Everyone singing.
Sam say, I'm not singing. And 97, he's looking at the map. Then he's singing and I
Abhinandan: says, I'm like, KA, but don't mind
singing. [00:44:00]
All: Singing. Everyone singing. Everyone singing together In Parliament,
Rajyasree: everyone is singing. Why is everyone singing in Parliament? I was singing Modi, am cha, Sri. Who else is there? If all of them. Raul Sonia, then Raul. Sonya, yeah. Everyone has to join in and start singing and the songs are not good. I still understand.
The song is so nice. You're like, this is very good. You know, song. This is very bad. I have to say. It was just you looking past, I'm looking at the classi.
Manisha: How was he played? RA was not, they said
Abhinandan: two gans. They first finished all the white people. Okay. You have French Prime minister. You are his wife. You are the chef, the French chef.
Yeah, you are. So after GaN was finished, all the white people, the Indians who were left, who were saying, bloody, who are we gonna sell our haba food [00:45:00] to? Yeah. They said, okay, you come, we'll give you also roll. I'll you So everyone got rolled.
Manisha and Rajyasree: It.
Abhinandan: It is such a
Manisha and Rajyasree: bad because that food I have to, everyone can roll.
Rajyasree: Roll.
Manisha and Rajyasree: What does he,
Rajyasree: I'll show you who Raju GTI was. It was because he just walks past, there's no, no, no. He's there. The two, three language and she Right. And she asks him, hello Mommy. Mommy. He says once or something where he see he's okay Now I wanna see this just for the casting. Yes. You see for the casting.
You sold the film to me.
All: Yeah, we, it's sold.
Rajyasree: You can finally 10 people will watch this film. I just felt bad for her little bit that so much effort. She made this film. Yeah. And her own party did not stand, stand up. She put in a
Manisha: lot of money in this. The production company's probably bused now. Well
Abhinandan: no, she started a radical restaurant.
No, the film was uh, I think Ease. My trip has a big, this thing in the end. 'cause even money. Karica. I think the Ease my trip co-producer, because they have an opening credit in [00:46:00] this. Okay. Uh, but uh, it's just such a always is my trip travesty.
Manisha: But actually it's a great time. I mean, somebody should actually make a great movie on the emergency and RAs make a good film on and it's sadly a very, very tumultuous time for India.
That's quite so
Rajyasree: even her assassination is shown, like I think BJP actually did get, must have got a little pissed off with her, with Kna, not with ind. Indra is the role model. Modi has Indra in his room and every day he said, mommy, I will follow any your footsteps. And he's doing everything that she had done, but her assassination and also her the, uh, operation Blue Star and how steadfast she is about like we will go through with Operation Blue Star shows in the, is a very wanna resolve.
Yeah, so I can imagine, uh, Amit and Modi and whoever are am, uh, Amit, your friend, Amit. Oh no, Amit, please. [00:47:00] Yeah. Uh, and Chapon and all who must have watched the film and given their feedback that the Mira look really good.
Abhinandan: Yeah. And, but the one thing that I, this film just has none office subtlety, because when
Manisha: that's clear, when ticks,
Abhinandan: when the Bangladesh refugees are coming, there's one scene that everyone described that the Sikh soldier, because of course the soldier has to be Sikh.
There's no, no non Sikh soldier on anybody in our country. Only Sikh soldier. He looks and he sees a woman, and because it has to, it can be subtle, he looks into her eyes and he tells her, and don't fire at night. He looks right into her eyes. I mean, looks into her eyes. She's like that cheetah from Kuna.
You go into her eye and then pulls out of her eye in a Bangladesh village where women are being raped and toddlers, their heads are being severe. The pains that are being toddler is [00:48:00] snatched out of the mother's hands and smashed to deaths. And they show the blood splattering on the Yeah, they're showing all that and all that.
And, and this woman has seen all that. So that is what comes also peels in her eyes. It comes, yeah. So then it comes back to her eye, and then it comes out. And then that Sikh man starts crying. He says, you know what? They have seen. They need our help. And then he goes in. So through her eyes, he has, it is,
Rajyasree: it's very, so the thing which I felt people, the things you can learn, which I think some people forget that these things happened, is how Sheikh Hass family was killed.
Like, and they don't show that he was killed with his grandchild and his arm. The grandchild was also shot. And which is why Sheik Hasina is the desperate she is because they are just, imagine I'm sitting in. Paris having a macker and my not macro for having McElroy, macker, macaroon, [00:49:00] maroon pastry. My family is a very, uh, well known political family and the whole family is very assassinated.
One night I might also become a dpo. So though there are certain kernels of information which remind you of what has happened in the world today, but those are very few and far and hard to notice
Manisha: with all the twitching.
Rajyasree: Yeah. Take
Abhinandan: care. And before we, uh, move to the canal camera, you'll finish with, uh, which book film do you think for you was the best representation of emergency?
Because I know which one it is for me. I mean, I've read Emergency by Dan, uh. But for me, emergency was best demonstrated in the, for how ghastly? It was in a non, in a fiction book, book mystery, uh, what's it called? Yeah. Hinden Mysteries. Uh uh, fine balance. Fine balance.
Rajyasree: Which you should choose. For me,
Abhinandan: that is because all the characters were real.
What? It's
Manisha and Rajyasree: very
Abhinandan: good. That, for me, just [00:50:00] makes you numb how horrible emergency was otherwise. Of course, there's also. Yeah. Yeah. Prash haven't that. Emergency
Manisha: Chronicles is very nice and it has a lot. I think I would also want to know from the point of view of what was happening to freedom of expression.
There's not enough spa, you know, focus on what happened to the press, what happened to, so let make shows, five minutes shows
Abhinandan: we know Oh, you mean the film? This?
Manisha: Yeah.
Abhinandan: Okay. No, so this, in the book,
Rajyasree: the book, this is a lot. So I'd like to see that. Yeah. So book Emergency, it was very
Abhinandan: Sanjay Sanjay. Right. Very good book.
But the one thing that I thought this film, uh, could have, uh, really triggered people on, and that is another thing when they're talking about, you know, the media is asked to crawl. They were asked to bend and they crawl. Had someone watching that film. They said, dude, they talk about today's media.
Rajyasree: Yeah.
The
Abhinandan: parallel is so obvious that strategically, even if you try to make RA look bad, the parallels with today's media is so obvious [00:51:00] that all the dialogue that is written for then that times media in this film is equally valid for today's media. I think that's why BJP pretended it didn't exist. It wasn't made tax free.
Even Wednesday here,
Rajyasree: it's very sad for her. Now I feel for you.
Abhinandan: Now finally, there's the case of Al Camera. The car police, Bombay Police has summoned him for cracking a joke because that's how we all take the police. That's what the Bombay
Manisha: Police has been busy doing for the whole year. It is amazing. By the time started with late at, we
Abhinandan: had filed a complaint, I know months ago regarding the cyber attack that happened on my website.
Haven't heard back. I'm sure I have very important stuff to do, but maybe you wanna look into that, but doesn't matter. Uh, so how people have reacted. There's this loser from hell called Sunil Paul. Who
Manisha: is he comedian? I have no idea. Hey,
Abhinandan: you have to be a pop culture host, who you are not. You're a serious news type.
You know Sunni Powell is a comedian who you don't know. He. So he has said, never seen him. This man [00:52:00] is a terrorist. Kal. You've never seen him? Kal com Kal, you've never seen him? No, I've never seen him The worst. He, he, uh, what do you call me
Manisha and Rajyasree: on my wall?
Abhinandan: Surreal. Don't lie. And I
Manisha and Rajyasree: grew up, I wonder, man, he looks like a magician. He looks like a magician. She like looks
Abhinandan: who makes good Spanish, who doesn't just make, this is a
Manisha and Rajyasree: he assistant.
Under to me.
Abhinandan: He has said that Al camera,
Manisha and Rajyasree: he is a
Abhinandan: terrorist, is a terrorist or whatever, comedy terrorist. He's a terrorist. Comedy. They're doing terrorism through thought of this obscene, uh, KRA Earth has said that he is, uh, belittling the good work done by I is saying things no one understand what the fuck.[00:53:00]
Manisha: No problem. Or,
Abhinandan: so, you know, if you are a cop, you must be very proud. You should tell your other police friends that you know, this is why everyone respects us so much because of how we act like this.
Kunal Kamra: Yeah.
Abhinandan: And if you're not a cop, uh, this could happen to you.
Rajyasree: Yeah.
Abhinandan: And this, and then we, India is the event destination of the world.
India is the dude. This has such a. Pathetic impact on everything and everyone. Yeah, I don't know who or why they think it's a good idea. And tell me something. You are questioning Al camera for this joke. If that is a crime, all the songs sung by Fernandez should be true Weapons of Bad Destruction. We, we all have almost, we have had near death experience after listening to those songs that watching Lie Live.
You [00:54:00] know, if AL'S performance is a crime. I think Aha. Fernandez's performances, sorry, Fernandez. Fernandez performances.
All: Jacqueline
Abhinandan: should be considered, should be considered, you know, crimes against humanity. Yeah.
Manisha: The worst part in all of this is that the show was shot. Uh, he performed show in Jan. He uploaded it in March,
Rajyasree: no, third March, January.
The show was Jan,
Manisha: and they trashed the place. Two months later, they've destroyed that venue. Which is venue. Yeah. Destroyed the venue for a lot of comics. And these snic workers get in and they're asking Al and they're like, perform.
They're actually looking for him two months later. And
Abhinandan: RI, I think Shif has a entry like Q eight, whatever there is. That entrance. Entrance. I think Shif has entrance at. Minus 24 is iq. You have
Rajyasree: to have minus I now build digit minus. No. And eyewitnesses
Manisha: who were there, they were like the police was there and these guys were [00:55:00] going on a rampage breaking things in the bar.
And we are there. We're sitting there. Yeah. How can you allow something like this in the financial capital and an entertainment capital? What sort of messaging does that give to any venue? But they don't care. All this when you, people will want to read your script now before doing anything. And
Abhinandan: rather than, and rather than anyone in showbiz actually speaking up.
Everyone will, you know, you know, but I saw
Manisha: Verma, I, I don't know if I should say it, because maybe no one noticed it, and then now he'll get jacked for it. But on his Instagram, he put up the video at must watch al's full act, because I impressed I was Okay. And the same venue was where India's got latent used to.
Uh, so they've, they stood by so many people there, four guys. And there's no, like, you destroy an entire venue in entire studio. But
Rajyasree: I'm very impressed by Al. It's not a surprise, but impressed by his statement that I would not apologize. I feel, I just feel, I'm not surprised, but
Manisha: it's very him. I mean, I, I wouldn't expect anything.
I just feel really bad
Rajyasree: because I don't know what they're going through, how [00:56:00] miserable they're gonna make his life now.
Abhinandan: Um, but that, I saw this whole show actually one day before this whole shit storm broke on Saturday, I think. Oh, so did
Manisha: he release the whole show before everything happened? Yeah. Or just a clip?
Abhinandan: No, the whole show was, oh, he put on I think the 40 minute or one hour I watched the whole thing on, I think Saturday or Sunday really.
Rajyasree: Instead of watching adolescent on Saturday or Sunday. Huh? That's what she's,
All: sorry, teacher. She's,
Rajyasree: I've got priority. I'll have,
Abhinandan: but honestly, can I say one thing?
Rajyasree: Let's hear now.
Abhinandan: Okay. I watch, you know, I listen to podcasts from morning to night. This is
Rajyasree: the other
Abhinandan: problem. Listen to, you know, right. While I'm gonna sleep, while I'm getting dressed, while I'm bathing, there's always, I don't have to watch this.
Like, for example, you listen to, every morning I watch, I, I listen to three shows. I listen to Jimmy Kimmel. I listen to, [00:57:00] uh, Stephen Colbert, so I don't have to be watching it. I can't do that to adults. It's with Kunal. It was playing, I was hearing it and I was doing 10 other things. For example, I putting away all my winter clothes.
They've now all been put away.
Rajyasree: Yeah, but now there's gonna be a cold whip. They've said next week. What, what will happen? Check up, send mine. It's 14. Don't, don't follow news. Heat wave by the end. That's what the papers say. There's
Abhinandan: a heat wave coming. That
Rajyasree: doesn't matter. I made it up too. Okay. So that is right.
Abhinandan: So I watched the photo. He has an amazing joke on Modi,
Kunal Kamra: maybe 1970s because
it's a beautiful time.[00:58:00]
No wonder.
Abhinandan: So how he sets it up. So, uh, anyway, so I saw, I have to
Rajyasree: watch the full thing. I've watched 10 minutes only.
Manisha: Mm hmm. Like I was watching the channel yesterday. AEC was showing his song throughout. So everyone's playing the song, I dunno, chip and have just done,
Abhinandan: they
Rajyasree: made
Manisha: it, but it's ships in all. So if the ship had
Rajyasree: [00:59:00] not reacted this way now, I would be so disappointed in them that what has happened.
So I was just
Manisha: discussing with my team because we were thinking of nuisance and I was, I don't know if you guys remember when, uh, there was this whole controversy around Richard GE kissing. So I was just like, I don't know if you guys remember, this had happened back then also shifts and went, they burned Richard Gele and his putler is just a tall white thing.
It's nothing. And they posters. And the posters, posters. Richard say sorry to all India. All India. I mean, there's such cartoons in a, who had
Rajyasree: complained about, comes with
Manisha: this great comic.
Rajyasree: Who complained about Kumar again when Twinkle had unbuttoned his jeans in that fashion show, but they Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
In that fashion show, they're always getting upset.
Manisha: Hansel, he wrote a post on Instagram. Yeah, that's what was the line that offended them. He has written that, but he was so, of course it's not funny for the person getting beaten up, but they have this [01:00:00] really strange comic element to all their,
Abhinandan: yeah. So, yeah.
Mr. Hinde. Mr. Ve, good going. You guys are doing India proud, and if you want to mail us, you can write to us@podcastsatnewsroom.com for any suggestions, feedback, what you want us to watch, what you want us to not watch, and did I do the right thing of not watching adolescence? You can also write and tell us that because it could trigger me.
It's possible anything can
Rajyasree: trigger you a show about food
Abhinandan: that doesn't bother me.
Rajyasree: How do we say that we are? Because I
Abhinandan: made so many.
Rajyasree: Oh, did you make any award-winning shows? Were there any longest running food shows? I'm just checking.
Abhinandan: Yeah. It wasn't the longest running food shows. That was Kana. Kazana. Oh, that's shameful.
Oh, I remember. Ha. Food, but, but I, that's favorite
Rajyasree: food. I had the longest Hana.
Abhinandan: Political longest. This is correct. That was written by, so just saying,
Rajyasree: tell them your views on Kana Kazana. Oh, [01:01:00]
Abhinandan: I have very Nosalgic Loves. He loves it. What kind of food show is this? The cooking show, the difference. Ha. Pedro. It was a food show.
KA was a cooking show. Yeah. D So that you say, I have cello, ham, I put snacks, ju snacks, we whatever Snack. Rizzi. I snack.
Or I say, oh. Crushed coriander with fine Swiss cheese.
He'll says, don't fucking
All: fish this everything. Biscuit switch. Who
Manisha: is the host for ka? Right? I used to like, it used to be fun watching it as a kid. Sweet.
Abhinandan: You can make ju [01:02:00] putt snacks like this. Fish always has. He is always like,
Manisha: he's such a affable guy though. I
Abhinandan: think he's very my, my fridge. Either it hasn't expired yogurt you can
Rajyasree: make.
You can have some energy bars, alcohol with some mint chocolate.
Abhinandan: Some
Rajyasree: beverage
Abhinandan: is empty.
Rajyasree: There is yogurt though, expires. So there'd be one
Abhinandan: or two cans of expired yogurt or nuts. Some chocolate and some nuts
Rajyasree: for sprinkle cut dinner energy bars.
Abhinandan: Huh?
All: Very nice whiskey. Eat
Rajyasree: properly drizzle whiskey. Bailey egg drop.
Not too much. So, uh, next time, which is two weeks away. Okay. You can watch four hours of adolescent I promise, instead of, but I swear teacher, I, I swear on my mother, I'll watch. But he overkill you.
Abhinandan: I'll just say yes or no.
Rajyasree: Next time Manisha will be back because we will be discussing White [01:03:00] lotus and it's, it'll
Manisha and Rajyasree: finish.
It'll finish.
Abhinandan: Oh, I, the real reason I didn't watch it, Kaisha was joining us. Because she would've watched it. How many fucking tv? Eight
Manisha and Rajyasree: episodes. She thought. Two weeks. It'll
Abhinandan: be next. Next Sunday. Sunday. That'll be two
Manisha: days after that episode comes.
Rajyasree: So next to next week I'll come. Next to next. Yeah. Episode she'll come.
Uh, next time we will review. Second. No, we won't. Al let's go to cinema, movies. Yeah. Non promise things.
Abhinandan: We'll go to the, we'll see. Let's go to the cinemas. But the Kama
Rajyasree: Theater
Abhinandan: Tickets. So the theater. So we'll see what happens next week. Very big guy. Ki maybe the, the cinema gets broken because Al Camera performed there.
Yeah. So we'd like to thank, uh, sound recorders. Aara, wonderful producer Pali. Thank you, Ms. Pande.
Manisha: Thank you Ms. Sen. Thank you, Mr. Ry.
Abhinandan: And it's a wrap.
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