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Al Qaeda leader in North Africa grants exclusive interview to FRANCE 24

Abu Obeida Youssef al-Aanabi, current leader of the militant group al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM), granted an exclusive interview to FRANCE 24. © FMM graphics studio

Algerian Islamist Abu Obeida Youssef al-Aanabi, the current leader of al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM), granted an exclusive interview to FRANCE 24 in which he officially confirmed his group is holding French journalist Olivier Dubois, who was kidnapped in Mali in 2021, and discussed the role of jihadism in the Sahel. 

As FRANCE 24's terrorism expert Wassim Nasr explains, it took a year from requesting the interview to securing the responses, with the militant leader imposing "many conditions" including the submission of all 17 questions in advance. 

Nasr said he requested a "stamped" audio file from the militant group so he could be certain it was al-Aanabi who was speaking. 

When asked whether AQIM was planning attacks in France, al-Aanabi said his group's dispute with France was limited to  local issues in the Sahel and wider Africa. He went on to criticise Western leaders for failing to acknowledge that AQIM's interests were exclusive to Africa. 

The AQIM leader's admission was the first official confirmation from his group that it is holding Dubois, but he denied AQIM had lured Dubois into being abducted. Dubois was kidnapped in April 2021 as he was trying to interview a local al Qaeda commander. Al-Aanabi said his group is open to negotiations and that it is up to French authorities to make the first move towards opening talks. 

He said AQIM considers it a victory that French troops withdrew from both Mali in August last year and Burkina Faso in February 2023, calling it a vindication of 20 years of jihad in the region. But Nasr points out that the French withdrawal was due to friction with the Malian junta as well as the arrival of Russian mercenaries. Al-Aanabi said the increasing presence of the Wagner Group was no better, calling them yet another colonial force. 

Al-Aanabi touted the success of AQIM's recruitment strategy in the Sahel, describing the region as the "epicentre" of jihad today, according to Nasr. Moreover, he said, there are no limits to the group's possibilities for expansion. Al-Aanabi went on to say that AQIM is essentially at war in the Sahel with the Islamic State group, whom he views as "deviants".  

Al-Aanabi has been on the US watchlist of "international terrorists" since September 2015.

Map of Islamist groups active in the region: Al Qaeda, the Islamic State group and JAS (Jama’atu Ahlis-Sunnah Lidda’Awati Wal Jihad). © France 24

Click on the video player above to watch the full interview. Click here to watch FRANCE 24's previous exclusive with Abu Obeida Youssef Al-Aanabi from May 2019. 

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