As someone who’s no stranger to dealing with online trolls, podcaster and entertainment juggernaut Abbie Chatfield was on the front foot this week when it came to dropping her wide-ranging interview with none other than Prime Minister Anthony Albanese.
Released on Friday, the latest episode of her podcast It’s A Lot covered a lot of ground in 90 minutes, including Labor’s policies on cost of living, climate change, First Nations rights, and perceptions of the prime minister compared to Opposition leader Peter Dutton.
Might be seen as a departure from her usual chats about all things relationships, life, and even MAFS-related — but we’re here for it.
Chatfield kicked off with a disclaimer, preemptively addressing any accusations of bias. She acknowledged most of her listeners are likely people leaning further left than Labor, and she outlined there was no attempt here to hide her political stance.
“I wanted to make sure that I represented the views of my listeners who are predominantly Greens voters, I believe, or a bit further left than Labor,” Chatfield explained at the beginning of the episode.
“I understand that people have issues with Anthony Albanese and the Labor government. I completely understand that.”
She indicated Dutton had been invited on the show, however he declined. (Source: Instagram)
The 29-year-old media personality’s approach to the interview was giving Albo the chance to respond to criticisms of the Labor government.
“My strategy was to kind of give a problem, a criticism of the government and then let him answer and reply,” Chatfield said, adding it was also “just a timing thing” and “didn’t feel very productive” to go back-and-forth on topics they disagreed on.
“You all know where I sat on topics. This was more for you to see where the Labor Party stands on topics,” she offered.
She was also quick to acknowledge a preference for the party over the Liberals.
“It certainly isn’t a perfect conversation, just as the Labor Party isn’t a perfect party. But I do prefer the Labor Party over the Liberal Party, so I’m hoping that this will bring some understanding to policy and understanding to the functioning of Anthony Albanese as prime minister,” she said.
So if you listened in thinking this all seemed a little one-sided, Chatfield was one step ahead of you.
“If you’re thinking ‘this is so biased’ – it is biased,” she said.
“I was not there to debate the prime minister and have him somehow change his policy or views. I was there to have him explain past and proposed Labor policies to help with those who are undecided or aren’t engaged with politics.”
She encouraged listeners to keep an open mind and highlighted many will likely be “surprised” with some of Labor’s policies, pointing to their latest announcements around funding more endometriosis clinics, as well as a 20 per cent cut on HECS debt.
“No one is telling you how to vote, so before you come in the comment section with anger, listen to the episode. If you still think Albo and Dutton are the same in every single way, then that’s fine, but I would be shocked,” she told her more than 500,000 followers on Instagram.
In terms of what’s next, Chatfield indicated she’s aiming to cover more ground across the political spectrum, with Greens leader Adam Bandt expected to come in the next few weeks.
And “before anyone accuses me of being paid by the Labor party”, Chatfield joked, Dutton has already rejected the invitation.
“We have asked, he won’t do it. We tried [former Liberal PM] Malcolm Turnbull – he’s too busy,” she told listeners.
There’s already been a swell of support for the podcast episode, including her partner Adam Hyde — also known as Keli Holiday, one half of music duo Peking Duk.
“I’m so proud of you. You have helped make it clear for so many youngins what the go is in an eloquent yet simple serve of an interview,” he wrote.
Another listener joked this was their version of Call Her Daddy with former US Vice President Kamala Harris, who featured on the popular podcast last year amid her presidential campaign.
It’s actually a pretty good point, because Albo’s latest chat joins a marked foray by politicians into the world of podcasts and other online media. We saw this during the US Presidential Elections (who can forget that three hour chat on Joe Rogan‘s show featuring Donald Trump?) and it’s hit our shores as the election race heats up.
Last month, Albo also featured on The Squiz’s News Club podcast, while competitor Dutton has made two high-profile podcast appearances in 2025 so far, namely an interview with Australian businessman Mark Bouris and with Olympian Sam Fricker.
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