Earlier this week, the United Nations General Assembly opened with a warning from the UN Secretary General that we are in a "suicidal war against nature". The European Union’s leaders have made it clear that they want the bloc to be a champion for climate. But given these words by Antonio Guterres, we ask whether that is really the case. Our guest is German MEP Peter Liese, who is leading intra-EU negotiations on the EU's carbon emissions trading scheme for the European Parliament.
Produced by Sophie Samaille, Isabelle Romero and Perrine Desplats
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